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Roon

07-28-2003 20:36:24
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I was looking at an Agco ST (new) tractor today and saw an some Iseki stickers in there. Is Iseki building these for AGCO, ala Bolens? How about other competitors? I know that JD uses Yanmar, how about Case D series or the New Holland T series? I am not trying to discriminate based on where the tractors are made, just would like to know. I still consider Kubota a canidate, I know who makes those. Also between the AGCO, NH, Case & Kubota, which would be the best 35 to 40 HP utility tractor?

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Roon

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Rod F

07-28-2003 21:10:58
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Re: AGCO ST in reply to Roon, 07-28-2003 20:36:24  
All of the compacts are Japanese based design. Case and NH are now the same tractor. They are made by Shibaura (ISM). Case used to be made by Mitsubishi, before the merger. Deere is made by Yanmar. They are really all about the same quality wise, in my opinion. Find one with the features you like. I don't know who made the compacts for AGCO, but probably is ISEKI. Downside of any of thses tractors is that they are sooo expensive to fix. It can make a utility look cheap in the long run. That's just my opinion though.

Rod F.

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pete-mi

07-28-2003 20:56:06
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Re: AGCO ST in reply to Roon, 07-28-2003 20:36:24  
The Case-IH and Cub Cadet models were made by Mitsubishi a couple years ago and I think still are. Agco, Massey Farguson, and Challenger models are all closely related.

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Rod F

07-28-2003 21:16:19
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Re: Re: AGCO ST in reply to pete-mi, 07-28-2003 20:56:06  
Challengers were Cat design. The row crop models, 35, 45, 55, were built by Cat, but were basically a Ford Genesis, with a Cat engine and mobile-trac. Massey and AGCO lines are still quite different, but the White and Allis tractors are much the same.

Rod

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Robert in W. Mi

07-29-2003 12:45:38
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Re: Re: Re: AGCO ST in reply to Rod F, 07-28-2003 21:16:19  
Pete was refering to the CAT compact tractors, not row crop models!!

The Massey, CAT, and AGCO compacts are all made by Iseki, and are all pretty much the same except for paint and a few options.

The CNH and the NH Boomer are the same tractor, except you can't get "super steer" on the CNH. I like super steer, and it kinda sways me tward a Boomer.

Kubota's are nice compacts, but man the parts sure are expensive, and you no longer can get "some" parts for older Kubota's, that bothers me, and makes me wonder if all the compacts from Japan will have that problem???

Kioti (Korean made) makes some fairly nice compacts, although they don't have all the bells and whistles some of others have. I'm told the parts prices are reasonable and they are good about supplying parts for older tractors. They also make some bigger utility tractors too.

At 40 hp, i'd be looking at buying a REAL Utility tractor, at least it will be build HD, instead med duty at best!! Compacts are just built too light, and not designed for HD use!

Robert

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