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Machinery Forum Re: Same 85 leapord [ Expand ] [ View Follow Ups ] [ Post Followup ] [ Return to Forum ] Posted by Jim on February 20, 2001 at 21:45:50 from (152.163.197.177): In Reply to: Same 85 leapord posted by ron on February 13, 2001 at 11:09:48: Where are you, Pennsylvania? There seems to be a big Same concentration there. I worked on a farm for three months that had a SAME Leopard 85 as the "big tractor." I can say that SAMEs, having an air-cooled engine, are not good stationary PTO tractors on a warm day-- even if it's only 70 degrees out they can still overheat. Like a shark needs to keep moving to breath in the water, so a SAME needs to keep moving to stay cool, if it is working hard. The Leopard I drove had the 12-speed transmission-- if you look at the machine the range selector lever has three positions, I, N, and V. No, they aren't throwing Roman numerals at you-- I means low range, N means medium range, and V means high range. Some people have thought the N meant nuteral, which it does not. Then the four-speed main transmission is synchronized. The view from the platform is excellent on the open-station tractor. 4wd can be engaged or disengaged on the go if your wheels are not slipping. All the controls are a mechanical linkage so repair is not difficult, but new parts are expensive since they have to come from Italy through the AGCO dealer. In Pennsylvania, and perhaps elsewhere, there are high enough concentrations of junk SAMEs that you can find some used parts if you ask around. The tractor starts hard when it's cold unless you prime the fuel pump (which I never learned how to do since I was there in the summer). They are mechanically fairly sound but they do need to be babied a little-- you can run them hard but make sure you do your routine maintenace and fix small problems before they become send-to-Italy problems. They are much better than a Belarus, for instance. SAME was one of the pioneers of the mechanical front axle back in the 1950's and maybe earlier. The SAMEs are excellent hillside tractors becase of their low center of gravity. Remember that most of Italy is mountainous. Put her in 4-wheel drive, select an appropriate gear and she'll climb Mount Everest. Well, almost. They are not junk, but make sure you try everything out on it before you buy to make sure everything works. You don't want to be doing repairs right off the bat-- it usually takes a few weeks for parts to arrive from Italy. Treat it good, and it will treat you good. Follow Ups: Post A Followup Name: E-Mail: Subject: Re: Re: Same 85 leapord Comments: Optional Link URL: Link Title: Optional Image URL: Email Notification: If you check this box, email will be sent to you whenever someone replies to this message. Your email address must be entered above to receive notification. This notification will be cancelled automatically after 2 weeks.